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Shin Ra	Posted - 2006.05.16 11:50:00 - [1] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: thedragoon I would like to also clear up some important facts about alektrophobia's involvment 1. We were never hired By FLA and have recived no ISK's for our assistance 2. I offered my alliance to help as of a direct freindship with a certian corp within FLA that i have played with for a long time in eve 3. Dofa had intrest's as FLA were in the space where they were as a direct result of them and me This should clear up any rumor's about being hired or why we suspended actions in BWF and BB space.... an Official statment will be released by my alliance shortly. Frag Out Does this include Burn Edens involvement? Yes we are the same.
Shin Ra	Posted - 2006.05.16 20:27:00 - [2] Originally by: Katielynn Edited by: Katielynn on 16/05/2006 20:17:02 Originally by: SATAN I see many dead D2 people in the near future. Your threats are meaningless and your space is juicy, please give us a reason. You think the region is unstable now? How about we move into YOUR region and then you can see what unstable really is. Go ahead and plug this into an English to German translator and think about it. PS. THIS IS A THREAT. LOL you guys are shure full of your selfs FLA wants Peace but hold company with people who make statments like this ..... thas funny Sure has stopped them getting pushed around tho don't u think.
Shin Ra	Posted - 2006.05.19 09:04:00 - [3] Originally by: arjun Edited by: arjun on 19/05/2006 08:46:11 Edited by: arjun on 19/05/2006 08:39:13 how about dividing deklein with fla holding the northwest and nfc the southeast. that was the most acceptable solution even before the farkup started. the idea with the umbrella alliance can not work atm because it gives all power (stationcontrol)to one of the member alliances. umbrella aliances are not supported by the game mechanics atm. fla might think about allowing atacks in the surrounding regions based from their stations. thats not in the interest of fla and not in the interest of d2 as we have other things to do atm. we stayed out of the conflict for good reasons as from outside its quite difficult to who is in the right and who is not. shades of grey and so on. Thats not an option. We want FLA to be part of a secure Deklein, not a divided region. We want all sides to work together and live together.
Shin Ra	Posted - 2006.05.19 12:54:00 - [4] Originally by: Top Quote I would like to clarify a few things as a senate member and I feel doing so on the board here as suggested a few times certainly reduces the chance of duplicity if comments are viewed by the community at large. Reputation should be a governing factor in everything you do. (personal opinion) I would first like to state that the NFC elected its leader(s) diplomatically from the choices presented to us. We of the senate voted for the current incarnation of our leadership and we will support our diplomatic choice until such a time that the process is repeated - such is the diplomatic model. Secondly I would like to address the diplomatic peace process from an objective view. The proposal from the NFC to the FLA of withdraw from Deklien and re-negotiate your return was flatly refused. We have heard from the FLA that they wish to create a free and open Deklien, with a thriving market and civil war a distant memory. Having faith in the statement made, I would ask one of the FLA commanders to post what the FLA would consider to be appropriate peace terms (obviously prior to any negotiation) It is my feeling that an open posting of terms would at least create a firm starting point for discussion and would allow the community to view how reasonable/unreasonable both sides really are. We are told the FLA run on a dipomatic model where all members have a voice and the NFC is based on the Diplomatic model also and therefore I see no reason why initial peace terms on both sides would be a problem to release. It has all been discussed last night at the meeting with Rayven. I would therefore assume all the NFC leaders who need to know, know.
Shin Ra	Posted - 2006.05.19 12:58:00 - [5] Originally by: Nafri What you want doesnt matter Actually, I want whats best for FLA. And from your point of view a stable Dek that is working together with mutual standings/docking rights is far better than a Dek split in 3 with an uneasy peace between people afraid to turn their backs for one minute. Typical Caldari, jumping to conclusions...
Shin Ra	Posted - 2006.05.19 14:13:00 - [6] We have told all this to Rayven last night at the meeting. Don't you guys talk to eachother? If FLA and NFC start being friends again, BE + Alektrophobia will leave Dek and indeed the whole North. We do not request docking rights nor do we have any need for them. So no, we will not have docking rights in 3JN. Furthermore, Alektrophobia (not BE) have offer that in the future, should any entitiy (for example ERA) try to take Deklein, if FLA are still in control of 3JN then Alektrophobia will come to assist in the battle for the region on the side of FLA/NFC - a rather generous offer if you ask me. This would not include pirates/mercs attacking you, but rather full blown invasions. So not only will BE/alektrophobia be gone, all of DEK will be at peace, they will all be friends, and should they be attacked, Alektrophobia will help defend the region. Seems like a pretty good offer to me.
Shin Ra	Posted - 2006.05.19 14:15:00 - [7] Edited by: Shin Ra on 19/05/2006 14:15:24 Originally by: Felicia Stone MacDuncan makes an interesting point... If NFC were to agree to your terms and let you keep hold of 3JN (which I know you fought hard for) for however long you stated; would BE and the rest of those malefactors you hang around with be granted docking rights? I can't see that a workable peace deal could happen if they are still in Deklein. To you BE (& co): Would you be willing to withdraw completely from Dek if a ceasefire was introduced? Personally (as always) I can see this being the only real sticking point. Thoughts? concerns? flames? This is not a sticking point. We have stated numerous times, that YES we will leave the North if a peace deal has occured. We would also not have docking rights either. We have made this point clear numerous times to NFC leaders, who tbh I feel are dragging their heels here.
Shin Ra	Posted - 2006.05.19 15:18:00 - [8] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Guys, get it sorted peacefully, so this unnecessary drama can be ended. Yes, thats an official D2 statement. Believe me we are trying. The NFC seem totally incapable of making any decisions. People claim to be in command, but have no authority to do anything. Out of all of this, the fact that no clear leadership structure exists within NFC is the most shocking part. We have came to NFC with a clear and fair proposal that everyone should benefit from, yet it drags on.......

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